Hi, everyone! Here is one more grammar test for you to master your skills. I have to admit borrowing two last sentences from the blog of one EC member. I have corrected her sentences a little for you to see grammar mistakes. I believe you know what to do! Just correct ALL the mistakes and make the sentences correct and understandable.

Here is your task.

  1. Having eaten outside, we realized we might have gotten wet as the rain had been about to start.
  2. Hardly we served dinner in out of door restaurant than began T-storm.
  3. If I am he, I would find a better job long ago.
  4. I didn’t ever see him and don’t want to see.
  5. I couldn’t help to recall the day where I confessed that I love her.
  6. When we cut off at the Skype conference, my colleagues called later and said blackout was because the T-storm was.
  7. Anybody of the two partners wanted to be responsible to take puppies’ poops away and they were about to break while a pet-sitter showed off. (Hahaha!)
  8. Having washed my puppies, I never know who is dirty, yet as I can’t tell them one from other hardly.
  9. Three years back I was witnessed of a funny situation, then I was in front of my office and three beggars had been asking for money on the road but suddenly got very quickly into the car.
  10. I saw there were little cuts on his hands and face, maybe intentionally he did it because he seemed to me fit like a fiddler!

The deadline is the end of May if I am able to survive for so long! Hahaha!

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Comment by bet on June 28, 2018 at 18:04

Okay, dear if I have more question I will ask you on sunday, thanks a lot.

Comment by Tanya on June 28, 2018 at 14:47

Dear Bet, glad to hear from you, too! You see, I haven't read your previous replies and some of your questions are not clear to me. OK, I will explain what I can.

2. Your sentence "Hardly the dinner was served to us then the T-storm began" is is incorrect because of the following reasons:

a) if we start a sentence with HARDLY, we MUST invert a verb in the first clause;

b) dinner had been served before the rain started; we use the past perfect tense to define a previous action:

c) we use THEN as a conjunction if there is a comparative degree of an adjective or an adverb in the previous clause. For exmple:

No sooner had dinner been served then the T-storm began.

Here, NO SOONER is a comparative degree. However, HARDLY is not, it is a time adverb and the next clause must be started with WHEN.

d) it is more logical to use WE as a subject as WE were eating outside and it was US who were going to get wet.

4. Yes, you can say so but any redundancy (an extra word) is a mistake in English.

9. I understand your question. Well, first of all, it is a compond sentence and there are no strickt rules related to the sequence of tenses. Honestly, I don't see any reasons for using the perfect progressive tense. You mean you saw the people begging on the street but a car arrived and picked them up, right? Honestly, I would say something like this: " Three beggars__ asking for money on the sidewalk __suddenly got into the car very quickly." OR "Three berrars asked for money on the street but were suddenly picked up by the car arrived."

Comment by bet on June 26, 2018 at 5:55

Sorry to bother you again....can we say...

Hardly the dinner was served to us then the T-storm began?

Comment by bet on June 26, 2018 at 5:45

Hi, Dear! Nice to see you!

4. I have never seen him or neither do I want to __. so can we write...or neither do I want to see?

2. Hardly had we been served (with) dinner at the outdoor restaurant when the T-storm began. ...why not then instead of when?

9. Three years ago, I witnessed __ a funny situation. That moment I was in front of my office. Three beggars were asking for money on the sidewalk but they suddenly got into the car very quickly.....what if I write in this way the last sentence? ...Three beggars had been asking for money on the sidewalk but they suddenly got into the car very quickly...as they were begging before the car reached? Actually I am asking should we use past perfect here or not?

Comment by Tanya on June 25, 2018 at 17:12

Hi, everyone! Danny is on a long business trip abroad now and asked me to post the answers at last.

So, there you go!

  1. Eating outside, we realized we might get wet as the rain was about to start.
  2. Hardly had we been served (with) dinner at the outdoor restaurant when the T-storm began.
  3. If I were him, I would have found a better job long ago.
  4. I have never seen him or neither do I want to __.
  5. I couldn’t help recalling the day when I confessed to loving
  6. When we had been cut off during the Skype conference, my colleagues called later and said there had been a blackout because of the T-storm __.
  7. Neither of the __ partners wanted to be responsible for taking puppies’ poops away and they were about to break up when a pet-sitter showed up.
  8. Washing my puppies, I never know which are still dirty as I can hardly distinguish them.
  9. Three years ago, I witnessed __ a funny situation. That moment I was in front of my office. Three beggars were asking for money on the sidewalk but they suddenly got into the car very quickly.
  10. I saw small cuts on his hands and face, maybe he had made them intentionally because he seemed to be a scammer.

I'd like to say some sentences may be corrected a little differently and if you have any questions, you can always ask us as usual.

Comment by selma on June 4, 2018 at 13:24

Dear Danny,

I hope to come close to your idea of which was mentioned in the sentences,

When will you write the answers ?

By the way, your feedback will help me to make a new study plan. Please advise me to digest the grammar issues which way is to be more effective  ??

with my best regards

Here is my second turn;

2-No Sooner had we served dinner in outdoor restaurant than T-storm began. / T-storm began just after we served dinner.

3- If I were him, I would have found a better job a long time ago. (mix type cond- 2 and 3)

4- I have never seen him....(.... I could not guess the structure expected)

5- I could not recall the day when I confessed loving her.

1- eating outside, we realized we might get wet as the rain was going to be about to start (100% certainty)

Comment by selma on June 4, 2018 at 12:01

Dear Danny,

 Since studying English by myself, I have made a lot of reading about grammar, after coming across with your challenging test, I realized that it was important to USE grammar and to keep trying to write with my own words what I think. Another point is having focused on speaking skill, I had felt grammar was to obstacle at speaking, because of not speaking without thinking grammar !

Conclusion, Grammar is the most important especially in writing, also in speaking but writing needs more attention. While speaking any language, structures may not respond to your feeling besides you are able to tell what's your mind with some other elements such as voice, mimic etc. 

See you soon,

Regards

Comment by Danny Clark on June 2, 2018 at 11:33

Hi, dear Selma! Really glad to see you on my test.

First, let me say a few words about grammar.

1. Having + past participle may be a gerund or a participle. Both define the previous action. In my sentence 1, it is a participle (having eaten outside).

2. Yes, 'we realized' is the past simple tense and it is correct.

3. "might have gotten" is the past form, that is right but in my sentence, it relates to the future past.

4. HAD+ past participle is the past perfect tense but it is incorrect in my sentence because it was only going to rain.

Now, about your answers.

1. Well, I can accept "having eaten" as it is quite logical but the rest is incorrect. First, there was no rain at that moment. It was going to start (incorrect tenses in both clauses). Also, it was senseless to change the clause order. Besides, we never start a clause with two conjunctions "that as".

2. If we start a sentence either with HARDLY or NO SOONER, we have to invert a verb. At the restaurants, clients are served by waiters (incorrect voice). People were served with dinner and started eating. A few minutes later the T-storm began (incorrect tenses and word order in the last clause). At last, there are NO "out of door" restaurants. We call them OUTDOOR.

3. The action in the main clause relates to the past.

4. The first verb is in the wrong tense and we need some other structure at the end.

5. DAY is TIME. Obviously, WHICH is wrong. CONFESS must be followed by the gerund.

6. It is not bad. All the tenses are correct but it is possible to make this sentence much better.

As I see, your grammar needs improvement. Will you try again, please?

Comment by selma on May 31, 2018 at 14:56

Hello Danny,

Thanks for giving us to involve into grammar issues.

I'd like to give a try some of them.

First of all, for understanding structure of the sentence, I looked up its place in the grammar book.

I would appreciate it, If you could assess how my approaching for solving questions ?

&&&&&&&&

OVERVIEW

"Reduction of Adverbial Clauses-Modifying Adverbial Phrases"

Having + Past Particible gives the meaning not only of BECAUSE, But also of BEFORE.

Past Gerund= having eating outside

Past Tense= we realized

Past Might= we might have gotten wet

Past Perfect = as the rain had been about to start

&&&&&&&&&&

1-(When we had eaten outside ) = Having eaten outside, we realized that as the rain had been about to start we might have gotten wet.

2-*Hardly we served dinner in out of door restaurant than began T-Storm. or

   No sooner had we served in out of door restaurant than began T-Storm.

*Hardly= only a very short time before

3- If I were him, I would find a better job A long time ago

4- I never see him and don't want to see

5- I couldn't recall the day which I confessed that I love her

6- When we have been cut off at the skype conference, my colleagues called later and said blackout had been because of the T-Storm.

Regards,

Comment by Danny Clark on May 27, 2018 at 11:39

No problem, dear! Thanks for learning!

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